Stephen Stills/Hendrix album to be released soon?

[RasFreeman]

http://www.examiner.com/x-20368-Little-Rock-Entertainment-Examiner~y2009m8d26-New-Release-old-music-from-Stills-and-Hendrixtogether

[RobWats67]

Brilliant.

[dino77]

I'm almost as excited about the Manassas album :). They were a great band.

[Roland Stone]

"Trying to work out a deal now with John McDermott"? What's the hold up Janie? Loosen those purse strings!

[RasFreeman]

More info on the Stephen Stills release.
http://www.reuters.com/article/peopleNews/idUSTRE59N0E820091024
He mentions he overdubbed bass guitar on some of the tracks Jimi recorded
with Johnny Winter.

Peace & Love,
Ras Freeman

[Roland Stone]

So if I'm reading that correctly, now it sounds like the only tracks are "Old Times Good Times" and "White Nigger"? And if I'm reading it correctly he is in the process of adding overdubbed bass to some Hendrix/Winter recordings? Shades of Alan Douglas! (Not that I wouldn't want to hear it!)

[manfree]

Agreed, I look forward to hearing it. but I didn`t know there was a lot of Jimi/Johnny tunes, I`ve only heard the one thats common to many discs.

[RasFreeman]

Stephen Stills has been sitting on this stuff for
40 years now and has repeated in several interviews
he has an album's worth of jams he and Jimi recorded.
Now if these jams are loose and unfocused (lots of starts
and stops, not really going anywhere), maybe EH will only let
him release what they consider "songs". So now he has to
change his story to "there's not as much as people think".
The stuff from the sessions i've heard has been pretty shoddy
quality (soundwise not playing). So any "new" Jimi in excellent
quality would be welcomed by me, just hope i don't have to wait
another 40 years to hear it.

Peace & Love,
Ras Freeman

[RobbieRadio]

When ever I hear "Hendrix" mentioned with the word "release" I get excited but then realize I will once again be disappointed as I have been so many times in the past.

[ilovejimi]

I get the feeling too that not much is going to come of this project. I guess the Stills Hendrix basement tapes really dont include Jimi-

[dino77]

The stuff from the sessions i've heard has been pretty shoddy
quality (soundwise not playing). So any "new" Jimi in excellent
quality would be welcomed by me, just hope i don't have to wait
another 40 years to hear it.

Peace & Love,
Ras Freeman

What have you heard from the sessions? We only have Old Times and White N**ger circulated. Oh yeah, and the Winter/Stills/Hendrix jams which are nothing special musically. The so called "basement tapes" are obvious fakes.

[buffalorattle]

What about the version of 'Woodstock' featuring Jimi on Bass ? I have this somewhere on audio tape,Sure it made it to youtube,Not great quality recording-wise,But the Bass line is funky & driving,Was hoping to hear an official release,Dont think that will happen now

[Roland Stone]

What about the version of 'Woodstock' featuring Jimi on Bass ? I have this somewhere on audio tape,Sure it made it to youtube,Not great quality recording-wise,But the Bass line is funky & driving,Was hoping to hear an official release,Dont think that will happen now

Isn't Stills also on "Send My Love To Linda" and "Live & Let Live"? And in fact doesn't Jimi play that same bassline hook in "Woodstock", "Live & Let Live" (including the Tim Leary version) and "Linda", making me wonder if all those songs are related somehow. I wonder which came first?

[Ayler]

"Live & Let Live" was produced by... our dear friend Alan Douglas who took the basic track of "Woodstock" (recorded on 1969.09.30 with Jimi on bass) to make one side of the Timothy Leary "Live And Let Live" LP (released april 70):
http://hendrix.aceboard.fr/264448-2565-2610-0-Timothy-Leary-Live-Live-Participation.htm

Jimi took the same pattern to record his own song with the Band Of Gypsys on 1970.01.16 : "Send My Love To Linda". Only the band version of the song has the riff.

[Roland Stone]

"Live & Let Live" was produced by... our dear friend Alan Douglas who took the basic track of "Woodstock" (recorded on 1969.09.30 with Jimi on bass) to make one side of the Timothy Leary "Live And Let Live" LP (released april 70):
http://hendrix.aceboard.fr/264448-2565-2610-0-Timothy-Leary-Live-Live-Participation.htm

Jimi took the same pattern to record his own song with the Band Of Gypsys on 1970.01.16 : "Send My Love To Linda". Only the band version of the song has the riff.

Actually the LP is called "You Can Be Anyone This Time Around". The track is "Live & Let Live". That title is the refrain of Leary's rap.

[ilovejimi]

UPDATE http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/interview-stephen-stills-talks-guitars-csn-classic-songs-jimi-hendrix-550798

[Experiencereunited]

Nice article. Unfortunately it doesn't sound like any of the stuff with Jimi will be released anytime soon. Best we can probably hope for is a song or 2 and maybe one of the jams released from the sounds of his interview.

[ranasakawa]

What hapened to the album worth of material?

[dino77]

What hapened to the album worth of material?

It never was, it was only a rumour.

[purple jim]

A year or more ago, this appeared in Billboard:
"He's also been working with the Jimi Hendrix family's Experience Hendrix company on a tape recordings
the two guitarists made together, which Stills claims "doesn't have as much as people think is on there."
There are two mostly finished tracks, though, "Old Times Good Times" and another with only a working title,
which Stills says might be part of a Hendrix sessions disc for which he's also overdubbed some new bass parts on
recordings Hendrix made with Johnny Winter."

[RasFreeman]

3 Years Later! Still negotiating........Still Dreaming.......

http://www.registerguard.com/web/entertainment/28672736-41/stills-crosby-nash-hendrix-rubin.html.csp


Hendrix collaboration still in vault
One rather famous session that will not be included in the box set is a collaboration between Stills and Jimi Hendrix.
Instead, Stills said negotiations are under way to release the tracks the two guitarists recorded through the Hendrix
family and its Experience Hendrix umbrella.


In the time leading up to Hendrix’s death in 1970, the two guitarists were planning to make an album together. Hendrix,
in fact, played guitar on “Old Times Good Times,” a song on Stills’ 1970 self-titled debut album.


Stills also came close to joining Hendrix’s band as bassist for one of Hendrix’s tours. Stills picks up the story from there.

“I was a pretty cracker-jack bass player,” Stills said. “So somebody in David Geffen’s office, probably David, intercepted
the message and didn’t pass it on. I found out about it, I was in Hawaii. ...


“By the time I did get the message, it was pretty cryptic. It was like ‘Jimi Hendrix called and they want you to come and
play bass, and I think you should pass. It’s too late anyway. They found somebody else to play it.’


“I would have done it in a heartbeat,” Stills said. “But you can imagine the terror around the CSN&Y management. ‘My God,
we’re going to lose him to Jimi Hendrix.’ ”

[Roland Stone]

The latest from Rolling Stone:

"After these sessions with Hendrix were rediscovered, did you wonder if there was anything else that you'd forgotten about?
No. What was forgotten was that there was a lot of loitering. Of course we just said "Just record everything we do," and so there are boxes and boxes of two-inch tape of barely decipherable conversation, laughing, and someone would occasionally pick up an instrument and clunkety-clunk. Boxes of loitering! There is one song that Jimi did that I gave to [Hendrix's estate] because it's just him. ["Somewhere"?] And then I had another one which I turned into an instrumental eventually, because I wasn't happy with the title ["White Nigger"?] and the words never came, and it was kind of in the wrong key. The way the session had started, he came in to do overdubs on it. Then there was another one, when he came to New York, and I was showing him my arrangement of "Woodstock," before I showed it to the boys [leaked years ago]. And then I played on something of his ["Send My Love to Linda"?] – but the discovery was that the "hidden Jimi Hendrix tapes" didn't really have much on them. Just a lot banging and talking and "maybe let's do this," and then "Jim, let's go to Tramps," or something. It wasn't the goldmine we thought it was going to be. Everyone made very much of a myth out of it. None of it really backed up. I have this one great song. ["Old Times Good Times'] There might be some other great stuff – who knew? It was 30 years ago, and we were hammered."

So, in other words, there's nothing we haven't heard except maybe "White Nigger" (which I think has been leaked).

[Radiobirdman1973]

Here's a couple snippets from: http://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/interview-stephen-stills-talks-guitars-csn-classic-songs-jimi-hendrix-550798 (which you've probably all read by now) that I came across which also discuss the tapes

Jimi Hendrix –
"Not much taller than me. A little wisp of a guy. Very soft spoken. I wouldn't be able to hear him today – my ears are so bad, even with these. [Points to a hearing aid in his right ear.] But he was funny, and he taught me a great deal about playing lead.
"I remember he was showing me something and I said, 'Jimi, Jimi... put your hand up.' So he held his hand up, and I put mine next to his, and I said, 'That's Wilt Chamberlin. This is me. Your thumb is longer than mine. I can't do what you're doing.' So he went, 'Oh yeah…' And he figured out a way to show me the same thing.
"Jimi was astonishing. Very dear, a dear soul. We'd decompress and talked for hours and hours."

You guys did a lot of jamming together.
"Yeah, but I went through it, and a lot of it is waiting for somebody to start something. It isn't really usable. It deteriorates into giggles and then the tape stops. I've been through it.
"There's a couple of things in there. Now that the family has worked their business out, I've done some of the things I did at Electric Lady with him. I've finished a couple of those. There's one song that's sitting there in want of a lyric - there's babbling but no good lyric."

Who was playing with you two at the time?
"Buddy Miles was playing with us one time, and then Mitch was playing one time. There was a nonsensical bass part that I replaced, and I'm also playing rhythm guitar. I don't know, we could just take guitar and drum and start screaming."

You mentioned that Jimi was showing you some things on the guitar. What specifically did you glean from him?
"You hear my playing, you should be able to figure that out. I channel him. I do that rarely, though – I just don't have the chops. I'm getting there, although it's a little late. I've already got carpal tunnel, so some of those things are a little hard to do." [Laughs]

Do you feel as though you're still getting better? What are you trying to improve on?
"Improve on? My stroke, my touch… chops. Chops! There's reach – that's chops. The ability to do… chops! How fast you can do it, and what your armature is like, what your stroke is like. Whether you can do it and dig in. What you can think of and what your physical ability is."

And Jimi Hendrix played on Old Times, Good Times.
"Yeah. That was pretty quick. That was the song I needed to finish the album. We started doing something else, so we made some demos and then went out… never to return, unfortunately."

Where were you when you heard that he had died?
"I was in LA, and I was so fucking mad I almost broke the television. I threw something at the screen. I was furious. 'Cause assholes would keep giving him things, and he'd forget what he had taken."

[dino77]

The latest from Rolling Stone:

"After these sessions with Hendrix were rediscovered, did you wonder if there was anything else that you'd forgotten about?
No. What was forgotten was that there was a lot of loitering. Of course we just said "Just record everything we do," and so there are boxes and boxes of two-inch tape of barely decipherable conversation, laughing, and someone would occasionally pick up an instrument and clunkety-clunk. Boxes of loitering! There is one song that Jimi did that I gave to [Hendrix's estate] because it's just him. ["Somewhere"?] And then I had another one which I turned into an instrumental eventually, because I wasn't happy with the title ["White Nigger"?] and the words never came, and it was kind of in the wrong key. The way the session had started, he came in to do overdubs on it. Then there was another one, when he came to New York, and I was showing him my arrangement of "Woodstock," before I showed it to the boys [leaked years ago]. And then I played on something of his ["Send My Love to Linda"?] – but the discovery was that the "hidden Jimi Hendrix tapes" didn't really have much on them. Just a lot banging and talking and "maybe let's do this," and then "Jim, let's go to Tramps," or something. It wasn't the goldmine we thought it was going to be. Everyone made very much of a myth out of it. None of it really backed up. I have this one great song. ["Old Times Good Times'] There might be some other great stuff – who knew? It was 30 years ago, and we were hammered."

So, in other words, there's nothing we haven't heard except maybe "White Nigger" (which I think has been leaked).




Probably there's snippets we haven't heard but Stills is basically saying it's not good enough for commercial release. So that might mean he woulnd't want a Dagger release of this stuff either.

[Fenders Fingers]

I'd buy a Dagger of these guys having a stoned laughing session :-)

[sunrise]

I'd buy a Dagger of these guys having a stoned laughing session :-)

Well, send all the tapes to me, and I´ll happily edit them...