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rocknroll
10-19-09, 07:39 PM
Jimi Hendrix
Midnight Lightning Revisited
Alternate takes

01. Midnight
02. Midnight Lightning
03. Hear My Train Comin
04. Gypsy Boy (New Rising Sun)
05. Blue Suede Shoes
06. Machine Gun
07. Once I Had A Woman
08. Beginnings
09. Midnight Lightning
10. Blue Suede Shoes
11. Once I Had A Woman

Studio > ? > CD > EAC > FLAC Frontend

Note: I picked this up on a torrent site
and my .txt said it was from a silver bootleg > EAC
but it seems that this was never on silver.
just to make it certain, this is my original archived fileset,
and to my knowledge it's not a re-rip from a burned CD.


01 - Midnight.flac:acac9e431ab90ae6274ae0c04612a149
02 - Midnight Lightning.flac:f912e08de65c68fbcc1bfb40fa34a935
03 - Hear My Train A-Comin'.flac:50294ce8dd1c0470dab61aa19f38f992
04 - Gypsy Boy (New Rising Sun).flac:abb3058f3acede3dec4547f07918729d
05 - Blue Suede Shoes.flac:36bb1ff3c5fa0e3f21833194efce86e4
06 - Machine Gun.flac:422395dabfb5b9e4f74dc8e163876283
07 - Once I Had A Woman.flac:0c31795050add99691050c97b0077df1
08 - Beginning.flac:5283f96c0ca425e584a5562621359663
09 - Midnight Lightning-.flac:7cc3aad6575742f959f6568d400d7e1d
10 - Blue Suede Shoes-.flac:849ae973252f906ee5d8339bff976253
11 - Once I Had A Woman-.flac:3047b0dbf9ab98d3768a269691494f21

archangel
10-19-09, 09:24 PM
. . . shining down from heaven above . . .

zososhane69
10-19-09, 11:30 PM
Many thanks for this. Had the Crash Landing, now I'm complete!

rocknroll
10-20-09, 01:20 AM
thank you for the covers archangel.
there's a lot of pertinent info on there.
damn. I'm listening to this now. it fuckin rocks
one thing though, hear my train needs to be speed corrected.
I would've done it before uploading if I had realized it sooner.
I probably will. then maybe I can upload the fixed version too.

Makkinen
10-20-09, 02:25 AM
This title was never released as a silver disc
so the "Liberated Bootleg" claim as well as
lineage are both incorrect.

rocknroll
10-20-09, 02:29 AM
ok well I tried to adjust the speed of hear my train comin and it's driving me nuts
for one thing, the speed on here matches the polydor CD speed
the guitar actually sounds about right, but Jimi's voice sounds slowed down
like he's on nitrous. when it starts out it's kinda bad,
but then it seems to adjust itself a little. maybe just the vocal track was flawed?
increasing the speed 7% made the vocals sound about right
but it made the music sound a little too fast.
I don't know. but I'm abandoning it. maybe someone else can try.

Makkinen
10-20-09, 02:31 AM
Speed correction in Jimi's case is tricky. He tuned his guitar by ear and
his voice changes from session to session. So there's nothing "strange"
in your "findings".
This version of HMTAC track "sounds" slow on all titles it was released on.
First time it was on "Can You Here (sic!) Me Rock" 2LP.
However it's very same on on the "Gyps Sun and Rainbows" 2CD released 1990 (also with complete Woodstock concert speeded-up by at least 10% !!!) as well as Shokan House ATM 3CD set.
It was recorded in Jimi's rented house in Shokan in circumstances we can only speculate about.
Why his voice sounds like he's on smack? Well, maybe he was.
:-))

rocknroll
10-20-09, 02:52 AM
This title was never released as a silver disc
so the "Liberated Bootleg" claim as well as
lineage are both incorrect.

ok well that's interesting. this is the info I had for it.
I know I downloaded it from somewhere the way it is here.
because it wasn't something I ripped from a CD myself.
but this does look like a .txt file that I could have made myself
it looks like my own formatting.
the only time I ever make a .txt is if I don't have one to begin with.
if you are correct, and I believe you that you are
then I might have been tricked or confused that it was a silver bootleg
but as far as the EAC extraction, that's not something I would ever assume.
I would put a "?" in there if I wasn't sure. so that part should be correct.
I keep copies of all the original .txt files I get in one folder
in a specific order, renamed with either a date yyyy-mm-dd at the front
or with a bootleg or compilation title. this compilation is not in that folder.
which leads me to believe that I never had an original .txt
and I'm probably the one who fucked it up somewhere along the line.
but whatever the case may be, I would never intentionally bullshit a lineage.

Makkinen
10-20-09, 03:00 AM
I didn't imply you wanted to deceive us intentionally. I just gave an information since the CDR extraction for collector's discs already in
circulation (with known lineage) isn't permitted on this site.
Never mind that, mods will decide what to do with this torrent.
Here is version of HMT from "Can You Here Me Rock" 2LP (France 1980):

rocknroll
10-20-09, 03:40 AM
I didn't imply you wanted to deceive us intentionally. I just gave an information since the CDR extraction for collector's discs already in
circulation (with known lineage) isn't permitted on this site.
Never mind that, mods will decide what to do with this torrent.
Here is version of HMT from "Can You Here Me Rock" 2LP (France 1980):

if this was never a silver disc then maybe it was another kind of CD,
made by whoever created the compilation in the first place
or at least someone had to have said it was
and I might have just gotten the impression that it was a silver bootleg.
but I know I wouldn't assume the extraction method.
it had to have said "EAC" somewhere.
it definitely wasn't a CD that I ripped myself
from something I burned and downloaded
not only because I've read the rules,
but because I never do that anyway.
I rarely even re-archive my own burned discs on HD.
but seriously, assuming you are right about it never being a silver
then whatever the case is, I apologize for screwing up the lineage.
I'm going to change it in the description from bootleg just to "CD"
because I do have "EAC" in my info, and that much I'm confident of.

Makkinen
10-20-09, 03:53 AM
Maybe the log is from the original creator of the compilation who did it as an audio CDR and then extracted it and encoded to lossless. So there's nothing to worry about.
I just pointed to what I knew it's not corect.
That's all.
Check the torrent I posted, the HMT track runs a little faster on the LP.

rocknroll
10-20-09, 04:05 AM
Maybe the log is from the original creator of the compilation who did it as an audio CDR and then extracted it and encoded to lossless. So there's nothing to worry about.
I just pointed to what I knew it's not corect.
That's all.
Check the torrent I posted, the HMT track runs a little faster on the LP.

I'm downloading it now. I want to hear it
because the vocals sound slow on this compilation
AND on the polydor midnight lightning CD
I just now put the 1975 LP on my turntable
and the production sucks, but speed and pitch is fine.
edit: ok, that's because it's a different take altogether
if you have the whole can you hear me rock I'd like to get it

Makkinen
10-20-09, 05:18 AM
Version on this collector's disc is from Shokan House rehearsals.
Midnight Lightning album's version is from the studio,
posthumously edited by Alan Douglas.
It's difficult to compare the two.
As I've said before, Jimi tuned his guitar by ear.
His voice differs from session to session and also
changed considerably between 1967 and 1970.
He was obviously very relaxed during this house Jam,
stoned too so that's why his voice sounds as it sounds.
Not much to do with the tape speed I'd say....
Regarding the LP, all the tracks are already on the tracker
in much better quality. I've posted the HMT track just to
show that IMHO the speed is not to blame for Jimi's
(very stoned) voice on this recording..

strat58
10-20-09, 01:28 PM
hi thxx you
Peace Strat58

manfree
10-20-09, 01:45 PM
Thanks a bunch for this

norocker
10-20-09, 05:27 PM
The version I downloaded from tapecity was posted by Hawkfan himself. Maybe he can shed some light on whether it came from a silver cd or not. Either way, good post.

RoomSeven14
10-21-09, 03:25 PM
Thank you!!! Can't wait to hear this one!

Audioarchivist
03-05-10, 06:38 PM
Would there be any interest in a posting of the boot vinyl of "Can You Here Me Rock"???

I have a rip of it I did off my records, almost ready to post...

Please let me know - reply with your answers! Thanks.

TOMC
04-10-10, 08:32 AM
I vote YES !!!

Supro_Ozark
04-10-10, 06:16 PM
CTT is back again!
I checked it every hour and now all my torrents are seeding.

Any seeders out there for this one?Thank you.:homer1:

terrybarber
11-02-10, 09:15 AM
Thanks for this! Im looking forward to hearing it!

mendobrendo
11-12-10, 04:37 AM
This is some damn good music!! Thank you so much!
I love Crosstown Torrents..........panic1

rocknroll
11-24-10, 08:49 PM
http://crosstowntorrents.org/image.php?u=7726&dateline=1289550365

now get back on your god damned heads.

moggio
11-25-10, 06:23 PM
I used to work out heaps of Hendrix and he was always tuned pretty accurately to a pitch. Usually half a step down, BOG a whole step down, I think Berkeley in standard E (if I remember correctly). Also as people say Hendrix had perfect pitch, which seems probably, being tuned between notes would be very unlikely.

However I have heard anywhere what he used as his tuning reference.

Eddie Van Halen is famous for everyone tuning to what his guitar was hence why Van Halen recordings are usually somewhere halfway between E and D# in tuning.

zombywoof57
11-25-10, 10:14 PM
thank-you for this nice recording

zombywoof57
11-25-10, 10:15 PM
I used to work out heaps of Hendrix and he was always tuned pretty accurately to a pitch. Usually half a step down, BOG a whole step down, I think Berkeley in standard E (if I remember correctly). Also as people say Hendrix had perfect pitch, which seems probably, being tuned between notes would be very unlikely.

However I have heard anywhere what he used as his tuning reference.

Eddie Van Halen is famous for everyone tuning to what his guitar was hence why Van Halen recordings are usually somewhere halfway between E and D# in tuning.
moggio is a Zappa song title

moggio
11-26-10, 05:49 AM
moggio is a Zappa song title

Wonder how you knew that Mr Zomby Woof!!?? :)

I also used to work out a lot of Zappa stuff too.....

rocknroll
11-26-10, 06:34 PM
I used to work out heaps of Hendrix and he was always tuned pretty accurately to a pitch. Usually half a step down, BOG a whole step down, I think Berkeley in standard E (if I remember correctly). Also as people say Hendrix had perfect pitch, which seems probable. being tuned between notes would be very unlikely.

However I haven't heard anywhere what he used as his tuning reference.

Eddie Van Halen is famous for everyone tuning to what his guitar was hence why Van Halen recordings are usually somewhere halfway between E and D# in tuning.

that's because having perfect pitch means you don't need a tuning reference.

ericjmz
01-14-11, 09:37 PM
as of 2011...for multiple days no seeders.
This would be a great one if anyone was able to re-seed...
Thank you in anticipation

eric

rocknroll
01-16-11, 02:36 AM
as of 2011...for multiple days no seeders.
This would be a great one if anyone was able to re-seed...
Thank you in anticipation

eric

there have been plenty of seeders.. but, please tell me:
how do you manage to maintain such a perfect zero ratio?
that must really require a lot of discipline.

crazy_cat
09-21-11, 01:24 PM
thanks

Fuzzlord
09-21-11, 02:42 PM
Thanks for this.

zombywoof57
09-21-11, 07:15 PM
look's very interesting, thanks so much

seanhite
08-31-18, 08:10 AM
Thanks