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    Hi, I'm a newbie, so forgive me if this topic has been covered before, but are there any bootlegs out there of the legendary Newark concert after Jimi learnt of MLK's death?

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    Re: Newark concert

    The answer is sadly no - any recordings that claim to be from that date are fake.

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    Re: Newark concert

    Not only have no tapes of the music ever turnt up, the story told of the Experience improvising a piece of "appalling beauty" that left members of the audience in tears, and Jimi then solemnly laying down his guitar and walking off stage without a word (after the claimed "This is for a friend of mine" introduction), seems not to've occurred, either, despite the purported ear&eyewitness testimony of the gentleman doing lights for Soft Machine who has told it.

    At least one newspaper covered that concert, and the photos exist.

    Nice story though.

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    Re: Newark concert

    ^
    Yeah, some pople just can't help it (funny how no-one else there "remembers" this awesome event)

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    Re: Newark concert

    Quote Originally Posted by dino77 View Post
    The answer is sadly no - any recordings that claim to be from that date are fake.
    Fake? What does this mean? The recordings are by some other band or what?
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    Re: Newark concert

    Quote Originally Posted by MourningStar View Post
    Fake? What does this mean? The recordings are by some other band or what?
    Just means that it's never known as to be recorded, or circulated.

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    Re: Newark concert

    Coupla other comments & recollectings re: the evening in question:


    On Friday, April 5, 1968, the day after Martin Luther King was assassinated, Hendrix was scheduled to play two concerts at the Town Hall theater in Newark, New Jersey. The previous night, according to that day's New York Times, police had arrested a dozen people across the Hudson River in New York City. When New York's mayor went up to Harlem to try and defuse the situation, he "was caught in the midst of an unruly crowd and had to be hustled into a limousine by bodyguards," according to the Times. In Memphis, where King's assassination took place, 4,000 National Guardsmen were brought in. The previous summer, 26 people died, 1,500 were injured, and 1,000 arrested when Newark burst into flames and riot. On the night of April 4, the Times reported, "Bottles and rocks were thrown in two parts of the city's Central Ward...but the police said they had quieted the disturbances quickly. There were no arrests or injuries."

    When the Jimi Hendrix Experience pulled into Newark, however, it was like nothing any of them had seen before. "I remember this vividly," recalls Experience bass player Noel Redding. "We got down to Newark, to the venue, and there were tanks in the street. It was the first time I'd actually seen that."

    That night, the Jimi Hendrix Experience only played one short set and canceled the second one. Many assumed it was Hendrix's reaction to Dr. King's violent death. After all, Sammy Davis Jr., Louis Armstrong, Sidney Poitier, and Diahann Caroll had all already announced they would not participate in the following Monday night's Oscar presentations in deference to the death of Dr. King.

    "My impression of that Newark thing, it was that we came and saw tanks on the street," Redding continues. "We were supposed to do two shows. The police and the Army advised us to do one show and get out of town. So we did exactly that."

    "I've got my diary in front of me," he adds. "It says, 'All riots. Only did one show instead of two. We came back to the hotel and went clubbing. Went to bed at 6 a.m.'"

    "The city administrators said, 'You can't do a concert here now because it's volatile,'" reflects Velvert Turner, a longtime friend of Hendrix's. "Jimi was accepted by the white majority in terms of the rock 'n' roll establishment. When you talk about having a concert in Newark, the next question would be, 'Who would attend the concert in Newark, which is a predominantly black constituency, as well as Town Hall being in a black neighborhood? Who would need to come there?' Jimi's acceptance at that time was among predominantly white rock 'n' roll fans. You are asking white rock 'n' roll fans to walk into a beehive of activity, a powder-keg that was just exploding."

    "I come from Bloomfield, New Jersey, which is the next town," notes Bob Cianci, author of Great Rock Drummers of the Sixties and correspondent for Modern Drummer and Blues Review, who was at the show in Newark. "There had been riots in Newark that past summer. Of course, being in the next town, I knew what was going on back there. The night of that show, however, I didn't see any tanks, I didn't see any crowds, I didn't see any problems."

    "We went on and did one show," Redding recollects. "It was very short as far as I can recall, probably about 45 minutes. There had been a lot of rioting going on."

    "I think we were going to take the bus down to Newark," Cianci says. "And then, of course, Martin Luther King was killed. There was a lot of trepidation on the part of our parents about us going down to Newark to see this show. So my friend's father somehow bought a ticket the day of the show. He drove us down to Newark and took us to the show. I think, if he hadn't done that, we probably would not have been able to go."

    In keeping with Hendrix's following at the time, as well as Turner's comments, the audience that night in Newark was "overwhelmingly white," Cianci says, adding that the hall was half or two thirds empty. "As soon as Jimi came on, he said, 'Everybody c'mon and move down to the front.' I can tell you some of the songs they did do. They did 'Fire.' They did 'Foxy Lady.' They did 'Red House.' And I know they ended with 'I Don't Live Today.' I don't have total recollection of this. It's been thirty years. I remember quite a bit of it. They did a lot of the first album."

    Ironically, Redding recalls, "We did the one show, which was more of a jam as far as I can recollect, than one of our proper shows. We basically played a load of blues for 45 minutes, then we went straight back to New York."

    "I don't think it was much more than a 45-minute set," Cianci agrees. "I don't recall whether he mentioned (about the assassination). The thing I remember most about their performance is that it was very subdued. There were no histrionics, at least not until the end of the show. Jimi just kind of stood there and played. He really played that night. I feel I was kind of fortunate to see him doing that, under unfortunate circumstances. But to see him hang back and play...

    "At the end, there was the big feedback guitar thing, and I remember Jimi taking his Strat off and throwing it into his Marshall amps. He had one of these coiled guitar chords and pulled it back. I remember him stretching that all the way out and then just flinginghis guitar into the amps. And then he turned around, grinned at the audience. I think that was the end of the show.

    "I can tell you with confidence," he concludes, "that there was no violence. There was no trouble. We didn't hear or see anything that would lead us to believe that there was going to be trouble that night. It was just an enjoyable experience. No problems at all."


    Turner knew there wouldn't be. While the police and the National Guard might have had concerns about the ability of Hendrix's music to incite the crowd, Turner discerned the truth. "My experience with Jimi was the music had the ability to unite and to heal. It acted as a balm as opposed to a bomb," he says, adding, "Jimi might have been a person who philosophically would say the place you need to be the day after Martin Luther King's death would be Newark."

    Then, philosophically, maybe not. Hendrix took an aggressively apolitical stance. "Jimi was a musician first and foremost," says Cox. "He believed that musicians should be musicians, politicians should be politicians."

    "None of us were really political," his predecessor, Redding, agrees.

    (excerpted from HERE)

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    1. There were no riots in Newark following King's assassination
    Quote Originally Posted by scoutship View Post
    On the night of April 4, the Times reported, "Bottles and rocks were thrown in two parts of the city's Central Ward...but the police said they had quieted the disturbances quickly. There were no arrests or injuries."
    2. Jimi wasn’t political only in the narrow sense of not openly supporting a faction of the traditional two party political system of government, but then the ‘The movement’ - the Weathermen, Timothy Leary, the Diggers, the Yippies etc. didn’t either
    He often spoke of the Indigenous Americans and other minorities. Especially the Black Panthers (who were anti Vietnam war), who he frequently spoke of, in generally supportive terms, and although usually speaking against violence, sometimes appeared to accept it as an inevitable part of societal change. Spoke against the burning of “Black” neighbourhoods during riots. Spoke of his support for Martin Luther King. Attended political benefits (Moratorium, Biafra). He spoke of his support for the soldiers in Vietnam (not the war, well, at least not after mid 1967!)- adding Cambodia when the war engulfed it as well. Spoke of his support for those who had fled the draft. He also spoke against organised religion, seeing it as divisive and a tool of oppression. He spoke of his support for the availability of abortion. He was strongly in favour of social integration and inclusiveness of alI people regardless of age or background, against the police state, was pro ecology, equality for women. He considered his music as being a force for changing society etc..etc… Not political? Come on!
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    Re: Newark concert

    Jimi did not actively participate in political groups, events or protests, therefore he was not a politician or an active political force. What you listed are beliefs; everyone has beliefs [and social problems they wish to see remedied]. Though, did he have political influence among a certain demographic? Of course.

    Jimi made a few comments here and there, but in essence, he was not very political.

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    Re: Newark concert

    According to Janis Ian, the previous night, at the moment MLK was pronounced dead, she and Jimi were at the Generation club which would eventually become Electric Lady studios, watching B.B. King open for Sly Stone. B.B. read a note onstage that MLK had been pronounced dead. Ted Nugent says he was there too and they all jammed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trotzkee View Post
    Jimi did not actively participate in political groups, events or protests, therefore he was not a politician or an active political force. What you listed are beliefs; everyone has beliefs [and social problems they wish to see remedied]. Though, did he have political influence among a certain demographic? Of course.

    Jimi made a few comments here and there, but in essence, he was not very political.
    Nothing I mentioned above was a "belief" ie I'm not talking about what he had to say about 'life after death' or whether there are aliens from another planet visiting us.
    I never said he was a "politician" (whatever that means). Nobody's saying he was running around being 'Mr politics'. But to deny that he was political is being patronising really. He did "actively participate in political events" as I already stated the Moratorium, the Scene club Biafra benefit also the MLK benefit. Jerry Rubin of the Yippies spoke at his 1st Berkeley show and he prominently wore a Yippie! badge for a time. Billy Cox remembers them delberately getting arrested for refusing to move from a "whites only" bench in the south. Not taking part in "protests" does not make you apolitical.


    By speaking to massive audiences about his support - or not - for political groups or policies he was of course being an "active political force". Let's not be naive.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trotzkee View Post
    "Everyone has social problems they wish to see remedied"
    - many people just don't care, unless it affects them. And of those that do only a few people have the power to influence people to remedy them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Trotzkee View Post
    "Though, did he have political influence among a certain demographic? Of course."
    Exactly, I have political influence, I use it ergo I am political. No?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trotzkee View Post
    "a certain demographic"
    - the most popular and one of the busiest "live" entertainers at this time, with a large swathe of the most active and educated youth to 30 age group as his audience.

    Being "political" does not neccessarily mean just picking a party and "supporting" them, or going on a "protest".

    Talking "politics" with your fellow workers is often not a recipe for harmony, especially in a band situation, where the other members are not interested.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Stone View Post
    According to Janis Ian, the previous night, at the moment MLK was pronounced dead, she and Jimi were at the Generation club which would eventually become Electric Lady studios, watching B.B. King open for Sly Stone. B.B. read a note onstage that MLK had been pronounced dead. Ted Nugent says he was there too and they all jammed.
    Was it not B.B. King opening for Big Brother & the Holding Company?
    MLK was announced dead on the 4th, all references to this jam have it on the night of the 7th and that those participating went their specifically for this jam.
    I'm sure no one there would need to be told of his death? or is the date wrong?
    Maybe B.B. was just announcing that there would be a jam/wake for MLK later?

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...oryId=89365887


    4 April 1968
    It was supposed to be a routine campaign stop. In a poor section of Indianapolis, 40 years ago Friday, a largely black crowd had waited an hour to hear the presidential candidate speak. The candidate, Sen. Robert F. Kennedy, had been warned not to go by the city's police chief.

    As his car entered the neighborhood, his police escort left him. Once there, he stood in the back of a flatbed truck. He turned to an aide and asked, "Do they know about Martin Luther King?"

    They didn't, and it was left to Kennedy to tell them that King had been shot and killed that night in Memphis, Tenn. The crowd gasped in horror.
    Kennedy spoke of King's dedication to "love and to justice between fellow human beings," adding that "he died in the cause of that effort."

    And Kennedy sought to heal the racial wounds that were certain to follow by referring to the death of his own brother, President John F. Kennedy.
    "For those of you who are black and are tempted to ... be filled with hatred and mistrust of the injustice of such an act, against all white people, I would only say that I can also feel in my own heart the same kind of feeling," he said. "I had a member of my family killed, but he was killed by a white man."

    Many other American cities burned after King was killed. But there was no fire in Indianapolis, which heard the words of Robert Kennedy.
    A historian says a well-organized black community kept its calm. It's hard to overlook the image of one single man, standing on a flatbed truck, who never looked down at the paper in his hand — only at the faces in the crowd.
    "My favorite poem, my — my favorite poet was Aeschylus," Robert Kennedy said, "and he once wrote:

    Even in our sleep, pain which cannot forget
    falls drop by drop upon the heart,
    until, in our own despair,
    against our will,
    comes wisdom
    through the awful grace of God.


    "What we need in the United States is not division; what we need in the United States is not hatred; what we need in the United States is not violence and lawlessness, but is love, and wisdom, and compassion toward one another, and a feeling of justice toward those who still suffer within our country, whether they be white or whether they be black."
    Two months later, Robert Kennedy himself was felled by an assassin's bullet.
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    Re: Newark concert

    Hmm, as I recall the events of April 4 through 15 were a bit hard to pin down, a friend spent a year+ researching, I've sent an email not heard back as yet. Specific night of Big Brother, ambiguous?, though B.B. was held over at Generation (different address from the site that became Electric Lady though I don't remember reason for that either) for quite awhile. Boyle, who clearly misremembers re: the Newark concert, also had said that the Experience flew directly back to NY after the 2 VA Beach Dome shows, Jimi may have gone to Generation late, Ian (16, 17 at the time) was from Jersey so may have been 'round, could be lots of conflated events messing with peoples' recollections, weeping & tears & MLK dedications are recalled from many audiences of that week.

    Trenton had major riots, and Newark was put on alert/took precautions as they feared a repeat of the prev. years events. Several sources DO note rioting in many U.S. cities---including Newark---however a NY Times article points out that much of this was rumor plus fact that "normal" unruly events were assumed related to the assassination and thereby exaggerated. It is possible that Noel & Co saw tanks somewhere (not Trenton though, too out of the way) on the way over to Newark? Crazy time, '68 in the U.S.

    Also there are people for whom the events around both assassinations (MLK & Kennedy) are hopelessly confused. Frustrating that Shapiro & Glebbeek never bothered doing much homework, and not only on this score.

    Here is a site about the Experience's shows in VA Beach, April 4 and August 21 '68 (note broken guitar documented for end of 8-21, see it fly toward audience in last pic):

    Experience, Soft Machine, Eire Apparent at the VA Beach Dome '68
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trotzkee View Post
    Jimi did not actively participate in political groups, events or protests, therefore he was not a politician or an active political force.
    Jimi is on film specifically stating that he is working on lyrics for the upcoming album that will try to provide answers for the problems then going on, rather than just more of the complaining & observation most others are then doing, as well as talking about one's responsibility to use one's influence to make a change or difference.

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    Re: Newark concert

    ^
    Pennebakers 'Wake At Generation' film shows Jimi listening to the Big Brother show, if that makes it any clearer? What's the info on there being two Generation clubs with BB playing?

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    Re: Newark concert

    p.s. re B.B. & Big Brother, yes, a NY Times blurb dated April 4 68, a Thursday, reads:

    Pop Cabaret Opens at Site of Shuttered Village Barn

    Generation, a new pop cabaret, has filled the gap at 54 West 8th Street left vacant by the closing of the Village Barn. The liquorless club opened Tuesday night with a show featuring Big Brother and the Holding Company and B.B. King.

    The operator of Generation is Barry Imhoff, formerly associated with the Cafe Au Go Go on Bleecker Street. Mr. Imhoff said that more than $100,000 was being spent to refit the basement premises for a new entertainment and food policy. A capacity audience of 350 attended the opening show.

    The informal atmosphere of the club is designed to appeal to "businessmen, Sweet 16's, and hippies." The admission price is $3.75 and there is a $1.50 food and/or drink minimum. A student discount of $1.50 will apply Sundays through Thursdays.

    [note: it was the '54' in the address that had me misrecollecting the locale, sorry]

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    Re: Newark concert

    Many thanks, very interesting clip.

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    Re: Newark concert

    "Was it not B.B. King opening for Big Brother & the Holding Company?"

    Yes, my mistake. So the Ted Nugent story was from a different night when B.B. was opening for Sly Stone.

    But back to the night MLK died. Apparently there was a bit of time that passed between the time he was shot and the time he was officially pronounced dead. According to Janis Ian, B.B. King was given a note to read that MLK had been pronounced officially dead.

    Also according to Janis Ian, Jimi already knew on this date that he would be the new owner of the club. Originally it was intended to be both a club AND a studio, but that idea proved impractical.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Stone View Post
    But back to the night MLK died. Apparently there was a bit of time that passed between the time he was shot and the time he was officially pronounced dead.
    King was shot at 6:01 pm, pronounced dead at 7:05 pm.

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    (with much assistance from LS, tnx)

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Stone View Post
    Also according to Janis Ian, Jimi already knew on this date that he would be the new owner of the club.
    It would be interesting to know how she could have known this then. Maybe she took a cue from Shapiro & Glebbeek, EG, page 390:

    The issue of New York's RAT Subterranean News for 19 April 1968 reported the gala opening of a new music club on 7 April in the Village on the site of the old Generation Club. Michael Goldstein sent out invitations to the press, who were entertained by B.B. King, Janis Joplin, Joni Mitchell, Buddy Guy, the Paul Butterfield Blues Band, Richie Havens, Roy Buchanan and Jimi. The club had just been bought by Mike Jeffery as part of his own business expansion, which saw the simultaneous opening of Sergeant Pepper's in Majorca. The club was still called the Generation, although Jimi told one reporter it would be renamed Godiva's.

    Can anyone spot any questionable items in there now?

    Or might an explanation be rooted in some manner of 'reverse ESP' on the part of the promotional team for her book?


    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Stone View Post
    Originally it was intended to be both a club AND a studio, but that idea proved impractical.
    One hopes one would be thinking of this bit of very old info in a whole new light by this point...from several standpoints. Like as

    --Just when did the lease on the Generation club actually become available? (Here is one area where we see distinctly that Cross's bio, too, suffers abyssmally from poor or second-hand research, btw.)

    --If the Electric Ladyland album really came in at a cost of $70,000, then where did the $300,000 annual fee some cite for 'blocks of prime studio time' come from and how would it square with the former?

    --Or, are the facts more in tune with John Storyk's recollections as relayed by McDermott & Co's Ultimate Hendrix (see pg 138)?

    Resolving some of these questions, and the ones they in turn raise, will go a long way toward gaining a more complete understanding of how certain of the more curious pieces of the Hendrix puzzle actually fit together. Not always in accordance with published accounts, and far more disconcertingly than many fans might be comfortable knowing.

    Anyone seriously interested in such answers can begin by giving Redding's book a bit more serious scrutiny. (And nearly all of the relevant case #s et al can still be had via online, I am told). It doesn't hurt, either, to note what he says about things like the Experience's short set at Newport 69, plus the fact that his book was published prior to the reopening of the case about the coroner's ruling. Even when Noel is wrong, he goes off track in some very illuminating ways.


    Nov 1 1967:



    The first country music program on network television

    Thirty years of Studio Design

    (p.s. Why was Monika given a "free pass" for so many years? Why assume she's the one who came up with the cover story? )

    [note to SR: And that's all the research we're going to give to you, Steve, lol]

    Cheerio then.

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