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    1970-06-13 Baltimore 5th source

    1970-06-13 Baltimore 5th source - the 'so-called soundboard tape'



    Thanks to CTT member carlygtr56 we have a new source for Baltimore70.
    It starts with Machine Gun, and runs until the end of the show, omitting SSB.


    There are only very faint vocals audible until near the end of Hear my Train, where (at 6:30) Jimi can be heard singing very clearly. From then on, the vocals are present very clearly and upfront in the mix.



    Another remarkable characteristic of the sound of this tape is that there is almost no audience reactions audible. On the 4 other sources, the music is almost drowned by audience reactions at times, on for example the start of Hey Joe, or during Foxy Lady and Purple Haze.


    Whether this is a tape recorded with a microphone or from a soundboard is still a bit of a mystery (to me, anyway). The difference in absence/presence of the vocals and the absence of near-mix audience reactions sure makes it seem like it has 'something' to do with a soundboard. But we're open to all theories


    The last track on the disc is another mystery item.
    Room Full Of Mirrors, seemingly 2 short takes from a session or rehearsal.
    The pitch and tempo are almost identical to the RFOM version released on Morning Symphony Ideas, which was recorded in the Record Plant NYC on 25 sep 69. Its possible that these takes are earlier takes from that session, but its hard to be 100% sure about this because of the sound quality and how short the pieces are.



    The torrent contains 2 folders, the 'raw' version which is exactly the disc we got from carlygtr56, and an 'edit' version. You can set your torrent client to download either or both versions.

    The 'edit' version has been through phase correction, to deal with the soundsignal which goes from l to r channel quite a bit in the 'raw' version.
    Also, a repeated section of Purple Haze has been deleted in the 'edit' version.


    Lineage: ???>cassette>CDR>WAV>FLAC
    Phase correction done with Adobe Audition 3.0


    Huge Thanx to Carlygtr56 and Hawkfan369 who made this possible.


    Artwork: None.



    1970-06-13 (Saturday): Civic Center, Baltimore, Maryland, USA
    tracks:

    1. Machine Gun
    2. Ezy Ryder
    3. Red House
    4. Message To Love
    5. Hey Joe
    6. Freedom
    7. Hear My Train A Comin'
    8. Room Full Of Mirrors
    9. Foxy Lady
    10. Purple Haze
    11. Voodoo Child (slight return) Keep On Groovin'
    12. Room Full Of Mirrors (rehearsal)(probably not from Baltimore)
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    Last edited by johanincr; 08-08-09 at 04:42 AM.


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    Re: 1970-06-13 Baltimore 5th source

    wow..many thanks for his johanincr..without forgetting Carlygtr56 and Hawkfan369

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    Re: 1970-06-13 Baltimore 5th source

    and thanks to Johan for cleaning it up.

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    Thank you Pat and thanks Johan for fixing it up.

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    Re: 1970-06-13 Baltimore 5th source

    Quote Originally Posted by johanincr View Post
    Whether this is a tape recorded with a microphone or from a soundboard is still a bit of a mystery (to me, anyway). The difference in absence/presence of the vocals and the absence of near-mix audience reactions sure makes it seem like it has 'something' to do with a soundboard. But we're open to all theories
    I don't think any second it could be a soundboard recording. The microphone of this source didn't seem to be in the audience (maybe on stage?), but except that, it sounds exactly like much of those 1970 audience concerts, with Mitch buried in the "mix".
    Nice to hear anyway!!!

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    Re: 1970-06-13 Baltimore 5th source

    Holy shit, I love this and i've only gotten through ezy rider. Thanks Jonan and Carlygtr56

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    Thanks a Bunch for this

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    Re: 1970-06-13 Baltimore 5th source

    something is not right. the torrent can't get open...

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    Re: 1970-06-13 Baltimore 5th source

    works fine here.

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    Re: 1970-06-13 Baltimore 5th source

    Univibs,Same problem here mate,Dl sat at 0.00 I gave up in the end.
    Had 14 seeders at one point & still nothing.
    Last edited by king guitar; 08-09-09 at 02:31 AM.

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    Re: 1970-06-13 Baltimore 5th source

    univibs and king guitar, i dont know how to help.
    the torrent seems to work for everyone else, there are completed downloads.

    Ayler, you're probably right, it could be recorded from or very near the stage, with the taper moving closer to the vocal speakers during HMT. Whatever it is, its not one of the 4 tapes we already had from this show :-)

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    I'm downloading for 15 minutes, with 28 seeders, but nothing happens. same for the Maple Leaf show......................

    have all a nice weekend, RudeBoy
    Last edited by johanincr; 08-09-09 at 04:09 AM. Reason: deleted redundant quotation

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruud View Post
    I'm downloading for 15 minutes, with 28 seeders, but nothing happens. same for the Maple Leaf show......................

    have all a nice weekend, RudeBoy
    thats because your share ratio has dropped below 0.2 and has nothing to do with this torrent working or not.

    when it gets up to over 0.35 again you will be able to download again.

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    Thanks for another source !

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    Quote Originally Posted by king guitar View Post
    Univibs,Same problem here mate,Dl sat at 0.00 I gave up in the end.
    Had 14 seeders at one point & still nothing.

    finished ! I don't what went wrong yesterday but I know now it's time to play this show...

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    Re: 1970-06-13 Baltimore 5th source

    Thanks for sharing!

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    Re: 1970-06-13 Baltimore 5th source

    wow i cant believe it. great find! thanks for sharing!!!

    ciao!

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    Re: 1970-06-13 Baltimore 5th source

    Quote Originally Posted by Vibratory View Post
    wow i cant believe it. great find! thanks for sharing!!!

    ciao!
    maybe about time for a new 5 source merge, what do you think?

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    Re: 1970-06-13 Baltimore 5th source

    not that anyone who can do it has time to do it nowadays, but i think a merge of the 1st stereo source and this one would have the best sounding result.

    adding the others would only add more echoey mess IMHO.

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    Re: 1970-06-13 Baltimore 5th source

    Im fiddling with a merge of 5th and 1st source combined.
    Its hard though to get more than just a more "open" sound out if it since the 1st source is so ambient..

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