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    Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    Jimi Hendrix
    The Rainbow Bridge Concert
    Haleakala Crater, Maui, Hawaii
    July 30, 1970 early and late shows
    Purple Haze Records HAZE001

    Disc One:
    [Early Show]

    01 Lover Man
    02 Hey Baby (New Rising Sun)
    03 In from the Storm
    04 Message to Love
    05 Foxey Lady
    06 Hear My Train a Comin'
    07 Voodoo Child (Slight Return)
    08 Fire
    09 Purple Haze

    Disc Two:
    [Late Show]

    01 Dolly Dagger
    02 Instrumental
    03 Ezy Ryder
    04 Red House
    05 Freedom
    06 Jam Back at the House
    07 Land of the New Rising Sun

    MSR > ? > Silvers > EAC secure rip > WAV > Trader's Little Helper > FLAC 8

    from the original txt file:

    This edition of this show reared its head recently at TTD, and was found to be from a lossy source, and pulled. The show was not originally lossy (at least the copy I purchased at A&B Sound downtown Vancouver isn't) and with how many people were so happy to get it, I figured that you all deserved a totally LOSSLESS version for your archives. So, delete that lossy copy and get this one. It will be so much better.

    There are other mixes of this recording. Due to the magnetic fields in the volcanic rocks below (!) the original 16 track recording was harshly flawed. According to an interview with Mitch Mitchell that I remeber reading once, when they went to a studio to mix down the multitrack tapes, only 8 of the 16 tracks were working at any one time. As a posthumous labour of love, Mitch attempted to re-record his drum parts from the concert back in the studio. While I've not yet heard that recording specifically, I've heard through the grapevine (and I realize due to my own recording studio experiences) that it is very hard for a drummer to re-record drum parts and keep the same time as a previous performance, and that Mitch's re-recorded parts are usually slightly out of synchronization to the existing multitrack recording. This version of this performance is (perhaps) a re-mastered edition of the original master tapes pre-overdubs. It sounds to me like the drum parts are badly recorded, and the maybe one or two tracks that had drums on them of the 8 that worked in the 16 track master were severely EQ'd and compressed to attempt to make them sound as good as they can. In other words, they brought as much natural drums sound as they could out of the drum sound bleed onto the other 8 tracks as they could...

    I have included my own scans of all the artworx of this package, including the slipcase, tray liner, CDs, and the 12 page booklet. I had to remove the staples and seperate the pages. Hope I can put my copy back together again! Also in this fileset are EAC logs for your confirmation that this one's the real deal!

    Please don't EnCrap this recording to LOSSY formats, and if you do absolutely positively have to for your little cheezy eMPty3 player, please keep a tight guard on that eMPty3 fileset. Don't let it get into the wrong hands! Actually, any hands are the wrong ones. If you feel that those eMPty3 files sound just as good as the REAL lossless files, then I suggest you go to an audiologist and get your hearing tested. Maybe while you're at it, go get your whole head examined! To paraphrase my old english teacher, I say "Smash your IPood, you festering nerd!!!"

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    d1t01Lover Man.flac:3b90f2a0cedf614188d36901e61ecc66
    d1t02Hey Baby (New Rising Sun).flac:38d664fa222fa62e7b64779d8d00c33d
    d1t03In from the Storm.flac:194888a843f702664b4f00fb530e3a92
    d1t04Message to Love.flac:a3eeb35439e4f12f21e506b590a75521
    d1t05Foxy Lady.flac:1a9cffc6c4bd9481c7511a773ab91962
    d1t06Hear My Train a-Comin'.flac:1b1841506d45963cacf1110567bc26c3
    d1t07Voodoo Chile (Slight Return).flac:e21be11abc2dc4bb340284afd8d33e05
    d1t08Fire.flac:7ff3b88c60a12dd4f1d23b40df8f9390
    d1t09Purple Haze.flac:f97fa4b483f3e02df0d2fc9716d983c6
    d2t01Dolly Dagger.flac:923d244882ffcfa78dabe668890bd3ed
    d2t02Instrumental.flac:a18e08b1b7c5d440fc9e1f8c27f 135bc
    d2t03Ezy Rider.flac:f195e42f2eb47f1e7cfbd08633bdc320
    d2t04Red House.flac:e41910b75f91ee64b4ecbf5b2e32788b
    d2t05Freedom.flac:ba1a1ebd1aaed5d9955f3eba2220b82e
    d2t06Jam Back at the House.flac:38d9c70a1bec42d0324bdb60b8d997d9
    d2t07Land of the New Rising Sun.flac:7b2e3820176c0529f8e31777604e07ba
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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    Thank you very much !

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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    I would like to point out that this is DEFINITELY NOT the pre-drum-overdub source. This is simply a copy of the 1990 TSP "Last American Concert" release and several tracks have drum overdubs: Hey Baby/In From The Storm/Voodoo Child/Purple Haze/Ezy Rider/Land Of The New Rising Sun

    There is a much better sounding (and more complete) version available:

    http://crosstowntorrents.org/showthr...highlight=maui

    Try that one instead !
    Last edited by sixwasnine; 10-18-09 at 09:18 AM.

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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    Quote Originally Posted by sixwasnine View Post
    I would like to point out that this is DEFINITELY NOT the pre-drum-overdub source. This is simply a copy of the 1990 TSP "Last American Concert" release and several tracks have drum overdubs: Hey Baby/In From The Storm/Voodoo Child/Purple Haze/Ezy Rider/Land Of The New Rising Sun

    There is a much better sounding (and more complete) version available:

    http://crosstowntorrents.org/showthr...highlight=maui

    Try that one instead !
    the drums do sound full for a lot of this
    I'm just passing it on with the info I got it with
    and it's the best source I've ever heard
    but I'll check out the other one here that you linked also

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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    Very interesting sound on this one.
    Last edited by Trotzkee; 04-21-10 at 08:02 PM.

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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    VERY fine and historical stuff here...nice photo above as well.
    THANKS for sharing.
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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    You could have removed that rant at the end about mp3s, because the original author is a condescending asshole.

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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    I guess he doesn't know you can put lossless music on your ipod....

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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    Walkmans.
    yeah, there was less condescending stuff when we all had Walkmans... except when you came across Metal Tape snobs who looked down their noses at Ferric... i guess nothing much changes.

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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    Metal vs Ferric!! FAFL!!

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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    Please don't EnCrap this recording to LOSSY formats, and if you do absolutely positively have to for your little cheezy eMPty3 player, please keep a tight guard on that eMPty3 fileset. Don't let it get into the wrong hands! Actually, any hands are the wrong ones. If you feel that those eMPty3 files sound just as good as the REAL lossless files, then I suggest you go to an audiologist and get your hearing tested. Maybe while you're at it, go get your whole head examined! To paraphrase my old english teacher, I say "Smash your IPood, you festering nerd!!!"

    Rock on rocknroll :-)

    and to anyone thinking any different :-)
    "That's the best news I ever heard" Bob Dylan

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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    I didn't write that. it was rude,
    but I do strongly agree with the philosophy.
    I believe if everyone accepted MP3s as the standard format,
    that the human ear would eventually dis-evolve.

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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    Any way we can work in Mac's vs. p.c.'s while were stoking up the fires here?

    :-)

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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    don't even get me started.

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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    I convert my FLACS to Apple Lossless for play on my 160gb Ipod Classic (which is always about 95% full of Jimi files.)

    Apple Lossless is okay for portability, but any kind of digitization of Jimi is unnatural if you ask me, nothing beats analog tape to vinyl with no digitization in the chain.

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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    I really think all of the hype about lossless is generally bullshit. I know its not a good idea to re-encode if you are distributing online because everyone gets to hear the source - but really to say most people can hear the difference is absolute crap.

    The thing that gets me is that a lot of the bootlegs have crap sound to begin with! A FLAC version of a shitty quality boot will sound the same whether FLAC or Mp3 - I can understand on high quality studio stuff...but otherwise...its really overkill.

    Actually a lot of the "only distribute FLAC" stuff is keeping a lot of people who don't have high DL limits - out of the loop...

    I know this won't be a popular opinion, because I have read many pro-Lossless on this board. I understand to keep the archives uncontaminated...but as a listening experience...I defy anyone to really be able to tell the difference between FLAC and a V0 encoded MP3.

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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    Quote Originally Posted by funkydrummer View Post
    I defy anyone to really be able to tell the difference between FLAC and a V0 encoded MP3.
    I can tell the difference easily.

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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    Well I once sat with a bunch of music loving folks who did a random listen to tracks at various bitrates - no one could tell the difference...
    You may be special rocknroll...

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    Re: Rainbow Bridge 1970-07-30 (HAZE 001) pre-overdubs

    Quote Originally Posted by funkydrummer View Post
    You may be special rocknroll...
    there's no doubt.

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