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    Re: Machine Gun Jimi.. 2LP

    Earth Blues is fucking amazing. The solo is perfect in all ways

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    Re: Machine Gun Jimi.. 2LP

    From Billy Cox latest interview, talking about Jimi, Band of Gypsys and stuff:

    In terms of Jimi’s career arc, where do these Fillmore East 12/31/69 shows land in terms of the music he was creating and the music he was looking to create later on?


    Billy Cox: The Band of Gypsys laid out a blueprint for others to follow and evolve from. Our band fused jazz, blues, classical and R&B. It’s too bad politics got in the way but the Band of Gypsys was a group about growth, evolution without ego or interference. Just playing together as musicians in harmony, loving each other and loving the music and being motivated to express the music.


    Tell me about the December 31st, 1969 Fillmore East shows.


    Billy Cox: We had two shows New Year’s Eve and two shows New Year’s Day. We didn’t know what to expect from the audience and the audience didn’t know what to expect from us, but from the time we hit that first note, they were in awe. You had Jimi Hendrix, a drummer who had been with the Electric Flag and Wilson Pickett, and I was the new kid on the block. We decided that we couldn’t do any songs that had already been released. We wanted to give them something different. So we went at the project in a joyous, creative posture and ultimately developed the repertoire of the Band of Gypsys.


    What’s the story behind “Changes”?


    Billy Cox: We had rehearsed “Changes” and a few others for Buddy (Miles). All of the songs we performed had been rehearsed. We didn’t look at it as Buddy’s part of the show. We were all there to give. We were all there to help and material went on whether it was written by Jimi or not.


    How did Jimi feel the shows went?

    Billy Cox: After the gigs were finished, Jimi was quite relieved. We felt the concerts went well. I might add that in previous gigs with the Experience he had used a fuzz face [tone control pedal] and a Wah-Wah pedal, then at Woodstock he used a fuzz face, Wah-Wah pedal and Uni-Vibe, but at the Fillmore East he used a fuzz face, Wah-Wah pedal, Uni-Vibe and Octavia and it was incredible. In fact you could hear all of it kicking in on “Machine Gun.” It was incredible.


    There were people in the audience with their mouths open.


    “Machine Gun” was one of Jimi’s latter day classics and the performance of that song on the new Fillmore East ’69 album is stunning, tell me about that key song.

    Billy Cox: Let me take time to quote this. I might not agree with a lot of Miles Davis’ personal ideas but I do agree with him about all his musical knowledge because I respect him and admire his musical excellence. Here’s what Miles Davis had to say about the Band of Gypsys and Jimi Hendrix’s “Machine Gun” which is the title track of this release.


    Miles said, “It’s that GDMF ‘Machine Gun.’” That’s what he said when he was questioned about what he heard in the music of Jimi Hendrix. Then Miles said this, it’s in his autobiography, “the best he sounded to me is when he had Buddy Miles on drums and Billy Cox on bass.” So we jelled as a group, we jelled as a group as individuals and like I stated before we were a group about growth.


    “Machine Gun” is one of the highlights of the work that we did with Jimi. I think it included a lot of other music in that particular song. It was a great song. We were headed toward creating something that a lot of groups had not done before. “Machine Gun” is the song I listen to the most on this collection because you hear me and Buddy in the background doing those harmonies and sometimes we were so tight that we sounded like one voice. Jimi was at his peak and he was playing so good and that gave us inspiration. So for me “Machine Gun” is a very monumental track on this release.


    With the Band of Gypsys, was there a concerted effort on Jimi’s part to pull back from the theatrics of old and place more focus on the music itself?

    Billy Cox: That’s absolutely right. He had to concentrate on that music because the music required more technique than just laying back and being able to move around and do theatrics. Now of course he did let go on some songs like “Lover Man” and “Changes” and maybe “Izabella” but when it came down to “Power of Soul,” “Machine Gun,” Burning Desire” and songs of that nature that we did at the Fillmore East in ’69 he had to start playin’.


    Did he express any worry as to how that more reserved stage presentation would be received by his fan base?

    Billy Cox: We ever discussed any of that kind of stuff; we knew we knew where he was coming from. So he didn’t speak about that kind of stuff but he did with the promoter of the Fillmore shows, Bill Graham. I think Bill called him out on his showboating at one show and the next set Jimi came out and didn’t do any theatrics. Some things went down backstage and Jimi said to Bill, “How’d you like that?” On that second show he went out there and he nailed it. That was really great.

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    The long, excellent, full interview is here:

    http://crosstowntorrents.org/showthr...997#post119997

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    Well screw Bill Graham, Billy Cox has always been the best part of interviews and DVD extras, gotta love the dude.

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    Beating the dead horse here but I severely underestimated this Machine Gun performance due to the audience recording, even though it is a good one. When Jimi is front and center though its unreal, tied as my second favorite, other 2nd favorite is from 4th show I believe, the one on disc one of official Fillmore East set.

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    Actually Bill Graham brought more quality music and environments for music (IMHO) than just about anyone else all the way up to when he died in 1991. Bill was not afraid to push an artist he thought was capable of more and for that he should be respected.

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    I finally bought the new CD. The Band kicks some serious ass alright, but doing a A B comparison to the 1999 2 CD, Live at the Fillmore East, the sound sucks. I listened to Changes from the same night as a comparison and the 1999 disc sounds light years better. I think Kramer has lost his judgement/hearing. I am disappointed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by maxine1967 View Post
    I finally bought the new CD. The Band kicks some serious ass alright, but doing a A B comparison to the 1999 2 CD, Live at the Fillmore East, the sound sucks. I listened to Changes from the same night as a comparison and the 1999 disc sounds light years better. I think Kramer has lost his judgement/hearing. I am disappointed.
    You can't compare the songs that way. You might be "experiencing" compression differences. I almost fell for that trick. Did you level match the playback discs (1999 and 2016) at the same db level using a db meter? If done that way the test is more neutral. It likely means you may have to turn up the volume up on the newer CD. Never forget the 1999 mastering was for different portable devices therefore mixed louder and with the older release more forward sounding in it's presentation. Over on the Steve Hoffman forum some owners have said the vinyl is fantastic. My SACD is dead quiet for a 1970 recording. I do like the 1999 release.

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    What a great show and release this is. No matter what format you get it in.

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    Still listening to this one on the regular. Need more releases like this one. Showcase the live stuff, where he was best. Where all greats were best is live.

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    I have compared the SACD to the vinyl. (On my setup) Both are great but I think I just might give the SACD the nod.
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