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    Re: Fillmore East, Band Of Gypsys: mysteries that still remain ...

    in 1995, tony brown said that 1/1/70 2nd show is 2.5 hours. we have about 1.5 hours.

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    Re: Fillmore East, Band Of Gypsys: mysteries that still remain ...

    Quote Originally Posted by copen View Post
    in 1995, tony brown said that 1/1/70 2nd show is 2.5 hours.
    From when the support act began until the the end of the show?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stplsd View Post
    From when the support act began until the the end of the show?
    i wouldn't think so. i don't see why he would care how long the support act played.

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    Re: Fillmore East, Band Of Gypsys: mysteries that still remain ...

    Quote Originally Posted by copen View Post
    i wouldn't think so. i don't see why he would care how long the support act played.
    There is no way BOG played for 2.5 hours - dream on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stplsd View Post
    There is no way BOG played for 2.5 hours - dream on.
    then i guess that if asked how long the woodstock show was, brown would have said that it was 3 days.

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    Re: Fillmore East, Band Of Gypsys: mysteries that still remain ...

    If you read the reviews they mention multitudes of encores. That supports an incredibly long performance!

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    Re: Fillmore East, Band Of Gypsys: mysteries that still remain ...

    Apparently they did a train before the half complete earth blues. I believe the rest of the 4 shows has surfaced to an extent. I would give anything to hear the train he did on the 1/1/70 early show the first shows was unreal.

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    Re: Fillmore East, Band Of Gypsys: mysteries that still remain ...

    Quote Originally Posted by kees1954 View Post
    If you read the reviews they mention multitudes of encores. That supports an incredibly long performance!
    What "reviews"? Ive only seen one that mentioned loads of encores and it sounded like made up nonsense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kees1954 View Post
    The musical notes in Who Knows are exactly the same as in Sunshine Of Your Love. Maybe SOYL was inspired by GMLS as well. BTW: Jack Bruce had his first solo single in 1965. Rootin' And A Tootin' sounds in part like an embryonic SOYL.
    The first single that is acknowledged as the first riff based song is Keith Richards' Satisfaction (common knowledge I presume). After all these years I'm still fond of Iron Butterfly's In A Gadda Da Vida. Again the same notes as SOYL in a slightly different pattern.
    Amazing how fast this developed into Heavy Metal. Blue Cheer's Summertime Blues from early 1968 is another example of proto metal.
    Personally I liked the first albums of Black Sabbath and Deep Purple in 1970, Led Zeppelin I till IV, all of Vanilla Fudge, but gave up on Hard Rock after Mahavishnu and Weather Report came up around 1972. My favorite from that period is Billy Cobham's Spectrum, in particular Stratus. Very Band Of Gypsys inspired, Cobham in the role of Buddy, Lee Skar as Billy, and Tommy Bolin as Jimi. With a little exaggeration one could say that Jan Hammer is imitating Buddy's scat vocals I prefer Hammer, though.
    Here is an interview with Billy Cobham beginning with Hendrix

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fDrwJbIIwg

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    Re: Fillmore East, Band Of Gypsys: mysteries that still remain ...

    here's my CTT review if the first BOG show on New Years Day 1970 at 8 PM . I do NOT remember " Hear My Train" being performed." Earth Blues" ,absolutely though I didn't mention it in review,odd?

    as far as approx. length of show: BOG played around 90 minutes. Voices of East Harlem set (45), set change (30) ,BOG set (90) ,clear the house to side exits from 10:45 to 11 (15)to open front doors for 11:30 start time of second show

    I was stone sober for this show,unlike Seattle 5/23/69 (LSD) and Randall's 7/17/70 Yago San Gria, Jamiacian bud and Lebenese red hash ("makes ya weak in the knees" HP)

    The chart in the new release section of which songs were played when seems very accurate to me.

    sorry to burst yer bubble about HMT

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    Re: Fillmore East, Band Of Gypsys: mysteries that still remain ...

    Say couldn't someone just send an email to Eddie Kramer or Jamie Hendrix and just ask them the set lists of the Band of Gypsys shows? I know Eddie Kramer has a facebook account. He surely must know more about it? Who dares? Would he become angry?

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    Re: Fillmore East, Band Of Gypsys: mysteries that still remain ...

    I'll do it now.

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    Re: Fillmore East, Band Of Gypsys: mysteries that still remain ...

    I have learned that Jimi's Woodstock show had one more encore other than Hey Joe. According to Kees de Lange's Plug your Ears, based on eyewitnesses, Jimi also played Wild Thing at Woodstock.

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    Re: Fillmore East, Band Of Gypsys: mysteries that still remain ...

    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorGero View Post
    I have learned that Jimi's Woodstock show had one more encore other than Hey Joe. According to Kees de Lange's Plug your Ears, based on eyewitnesses, Jimi also played Wild Thing at Woodstock.
    That was s long time ago, what has kees got to say now?
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    Re: Fillmore East, Band Of Gypsys: mysteries that still remain ...

    I too find it hard to believe Wild Thing was played after Hey Joe at this gig.

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