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    Did Kathy have a slew of newspapers at her door wanting an interview or was it a choice of just the low end rags?
    That's in no way i going to "excuse" such foolishness AS IN TALKING TO THE GUTTER PRESS at any time with regard ANY issue.
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    Re: 24 August 1970 to ∞

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenders Fingers View Post
    Did Kathy have a slew of newspapers at her door wanting an interview or was it a choice of just the low end rags?
    That's in no way i going to "excuse" such foolishness AS IN TALKING TO THE GUTTER PRESS at any time with regard ANY issue.
    Who knows, but journalists can be very persuasive and act nice/emphatic etc...they never say "Can you give an interview? I will distort most of what you say to suit my needs and this will haunt you as long as you live".

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    Re: 24 August 1970 to ∞

    Quote Originally Posted by dino77 View Post
    Who knows, but journalists can be very persuasive and act nice/emphatic etc...they never say "Can you give an interview? I will distort most of what you say to suit my needs and this will haunt you as long as you live".
    ALL newspapers put a slant on whatever they are told. Just the gutter press (and you know who you are you fuckers, rot in hell or is that Jail, lol) do it in such a way as to ensure that what they write becomes the TRUTH, the History of the issue in question.

    I'm sure Kathy regretted granting these people an interview, payment or otherwise but at age 24 she would have known that just what she had to say would be distorted to satisfy both the gutter minds of the paper in question and also put it on a level the paying readers could understand, let’s be honest the average intelligence of readers even today of such rags is little more than basic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenders Fingers View Post
    ALL newspapers put a slant on whatever they are told. Just the gutter press (and you know who you are you fuckers, rot in hell or is that Jail, lol) do it in such a way as to ensure that what they write becomes the TRUTH, the History of the issue in question.

    I'm sure Kathy regretted granting these people an interview, payment or otherwise but at age 24 she would have known that just what she had to say would be distorted to satisfy both the gutter minds of the paper in question and also put it on a level the paying readers could understand, let’s be honest the average intelligence of readers even today of such rags is little more than basic.
    Sure, Kathy was very naive. My point was that doesn't make her a money-hungry bitch as some try to argue. Plenty of other Jimi alumni in the latter category though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dino77 View Post
    Sure, Kathy was very naive. ...
    I don't think so. According to her book, she comes across as already being quite 'street smart' by the time Hendrix enters her life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Defender007 View Post
    It's in Kathy Etchingham's book in some detail toward the end of the book.

    Monika threatened to sue Noel but never went through with it - she had her hands full when Kathy DID sue her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MourningStar View Post
    I don't think so. According to her book, she comes across as already being quite 'street smart' by the time Hendrix enters her life.
    Jimi himself was street smart, and he signed a 5-year contract for $5. Street smart doesn't mean you are knowledgeable of every aspect of society.
    But I'm not gonna be an apologist for Kathy E.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dino77 View Post
    Jimi himself was street smart ...
    No, not from what I've seen documented about Hendrix, and from personally knowing 'street-smart' people. If he were, he would not have ended on Sept. 18 (short of foul-play).
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    did any of you give interviews? I can tell you, you are never prepared, no matter how hard you try, for the result. It seems impossible to get them to write what you actually said/intended to say. Saying that, I am always amazed to read Hendrix interviews and how he manages to stay in control (most of the times) and get the most wonderful ideas across.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ezy Rider View Post
    ... It seems impossible to get them to write what you actually said/intended to say. Saying that, I am always amazed to read Hendrix interviews ...:
    Hendrix speaking is like hearing from the Burning Bush - you dare not misquote!
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    Re: 24 August 1970 to ∞

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezy Rider View Post
    I am always amazed to read Hendrix interviews and how he manages to stay in control (most of the times) and get the most wonderful ideas across.
    I think the interviewers pretty much all realized that if they just went verbatim with whatever Jimi said, it would be better than any spiced up version they could come up with. Anybody else they interviewed would of course need major reworking before going to print.

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    Re: 24 August 1970 to ∞

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticbumwipe View Post
    Bridges and Danneman were hardly pals.
    Aquaintances, whatever, ho-hum.
    Do you dispute that she was trying to get hold of Bridges when she phoned Judy Wong? (where Bridges had been staying until that night)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MourningStar View Post
    I don't think so. According to her book, she comes across as already being quite 'street smart' by the time Hendrix enters her life.
    I think she was just more complete and self confident in life. She was of course ready to party and enjoy life but still had other interests in life besides Jimi. She doesn't appear to be the clingy groupie type from what I've read of her. I am pretty sure she had Jimi's attention when they were together. Let's not forget Jimi had a jealous/mean side to him that rarely gets mentioned?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sharpstat View Post
    I think she was just more complete and self confident in life. She was of course ready to party and enjoy life but still had other interests in life besides Jimi. She doesn't appear to be the clingy groupie type from what I've read of her. I am pretty sure she had Jimi's attention when they were together. Let's not forget Jimi had a jealous/mean side to him that rarely gets mentioned?
    That's a pretty good character description probably.
    Yes, Jimi hit her with a telephone with John and Paul as witnesses...some people should not drink.

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    Re: 24 August 1970 to ∞

    Quote Originally Posted by dino77 View Post
    Jimi hit her with a telephone with John and Paul as witnesses
    According to Kathy that is. I don't recall either Beatle (or anyone else) backing up her story, not to say it didn't happen - just. And I've yet to see any back-up for most of her other stories for that matter - eg Angie's reported letter, their antics in 1969 NY 70 London, seems probable but why not show us the letter, some evidence (anything of something!) that she was in NY for that length of time, the NY concert etc.
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    Re: 24 August 1970 to ∞

    Quote Originally Posted by stplsd View Post
    Aquaintances, whatever,...
    Do you dispute that she was trying to get hold of Bridges when she phoned Judy Wong? (where Bridges had been staying until that night)
    As I understand it Monika was trying to get hold of Jimi's private doctor's number. So she was presumably ringing numbers that she found in Jimi's adress book of names that she had heard from him or of people she knew he had been seeing around that time. That is why I don't underdstand it as you appear to, i.e. I don't think she was ringing either "pals" or "acqauintances". That I regard as your presumption.
    She presumably DID become 'acqauinted' with them AFTER Jimi had died and with all that followed. But they were never 'pals'. I think you have got that bit wrong.

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    Re: 24 August 1970 to ∞

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticbumwipe View Post
    As I understand it Monika was trying to get hold of Jimi's private doctor's number.
    How "pally" they were is neither here nor there, what has that got to do with anything?

    She had met them both earlier, she phoned Bridges up after being given her number by Wong, whatever, the result's the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stplsd View Post
    How "pally" they were is neither here nor there, what has that got to do with anything?
    Huh! It has got everything to do with what we are discussing. That is the only thing I have been discussing with you.

    You described them as "pals". I suggested that it is wrong to assume that. Monika and Alvenia were NEVER "pals" before Jimi died and I know of no info to suggest that they were "pals" AFTER.

    Er... however small and insignificant, can you ever admit to being in error about anything ?

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    Re: 24 August 1970 to ∞

    Quote Originally Posted by stplsd View Post
    How "pally" they were is neither here nor there, what has that got to do with anything?
    ie I'll spell it out for you, "What bearing do you feel their level of aquaintance was had on the events leading up to JH's demise, or possibly the stances taken by varying factions after the event?" I'm still waiting for a reply

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticbumwipe View Post
    You described them as "pals". I suggested that it is wrong to assume that.
    You did not "suggest", you emphatically denied the possibilty. I suggest it is wrong to assume they were not on 'friendly enough terms' that MD considered, quite possibly exagerratedly so, that they were 'friends', I wouldn't know. MD arrived in London by the 24 August 70 at least and had visited London twice previously (1969) at least, so we are told. She may well have met AB several times. It's not my point of view that they were friends, failing someone producing evidence to the contrary I have merely used MD's description of what she felt their relationship was ie "friends", I was not sufficiently interested to investigate their depth of aquaintance, as I don't see that as being of any significance.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticbumwipe View Post
    Monika and Alvenia were NEVER "pals" before Jimi died
    Monika claims they were. I have yet to see Alvinia, Wong or anyone else who would know challenging this. If some evidence appears to contradict that they had met earlier, and that they were not on friendly terms. I will conclude that Monika's claim is an error. You merely asserting such is not 'evidence'

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticbumwipe View Post
    Er... however small and insignificant
    Yes that does possibly sum up this topic, depends on if you have some interesting point to make (other than asserting that they were not 'pals')

    Quote Originally Posted by Mysticbumwipe View Post
    , can you ever admit to being in error about anything ?
    I have done several times, here at CTT. Have you ever admitted to being in error?
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