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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Stone View Post
    I have never thought there was any controversy about this! And foolishly perhaps, I always thought Jimi was saying

    "No one will ever own the mine, nobody of it is worth"

    Makes perfect sense to me, if "worth" is a colloquialism for "worthy".
    So, 'Nobody of the mine (although they don't own it and never will) is worthy' makes sense to you?
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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    Nobody is worthy of owning the mine. Kind of like the native American philosophy that men can't "own" land. It makes no less sense than any of the rest of the song! As Dave Van Ronk observed, even the title of the song makes no sense. A watchtower is a tower, not a wall, so how can you go "all along" a watchtower? It's Dylan getting away with nonsense because he's Dylan.

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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Roland Stone View Post
    It's Dylan getting away with nonsense because he's Dylan.
    heh, heh ... yes - that's Dylan in a nutshell!
    *** WATCH OUT FOR YOUR EARS !***

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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    What is nonsensical about somebody (joker/thief) who wants to leave a bad place (life as joke), and heads for a better place (watchtower=castle) where true people/love (princess) is waiting for him?
    "Specially when your only friend talks, looks, sees and feels like you, and you do the same just like him." Jimi Hendrix - My Friend

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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    ^
    seriously?
    *** WATCH OUT FOR YOUR EARS !***

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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    "None will ever own their mind, nobody of it is worth" is what I have always heard and it makes sense to me. Plow man and business men are too caught up in the system being pawns, not thinking for themselves or about their fellow man, hence they're not worthy of owning their minds.
    Let me live my life, the way I want to.

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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    Dylans lyrics are much the same as Lennon`s
    They mean whatever You want them to Mean!
    "Fucking Hell, I Broke a String!!"
    1968 Voodoo Chile sessions.

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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    Quote Originally Posted by manfree View Post
    Dylans lyrics are much the same as Lennon`s
    They mean whatever You want them to Mean!
    Eh, I think - according to many people's personal preference - you'll find that their interpretation of anything is whatever they want it to mean, nevermind some pop lyrics
    I'm not really debating the ultimate "meaning" of Jimi's lyrics, it's about what the actual words are when Jimi's slurring/poor recording etc. makes it difficult to identify them.
    'Meaning' here only comes in to play as regards the suitability of choice, when the words are slurred etc. to an extent that makes their identity problematic. I have just put up a few of my transcripts of his lyrics, including my, slight, notes on possible sources etc. for support of my choice (of what I 'hear')/interest/couldn't be bothered cutting them out/whatever, not really a debate on the ultimate 'meaning'.

    If you want to discuss the 'meaning' of his lyrics this is not the place. Maybe start your own thread on this?
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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    All Along The Watchtower

    “There must be some way out of here,” said the joker to the thief
    “There’s too much confusion, I can’t get no relief
    Businessmen, they drink my wine, plowmen dig my earth
    None of them along the line know what any of it is worth”
    “No reason to get excited,” the thief, he kindly spoke
    “There are many here among us who feel that life is but a joke
    But you and I, we’ve been through that, and this is not our fate
    So let us not talk falsely now, the hour is getting late”
    All along the watchtower, princes kept the view
    While all the women came and went, barefoot servants, too
    Outside in the distance a wildcat did growl
    Two riders were approaching, the wind began to howl


    Well these are the original lyrics. I've no idea what the lyrics mean- personaly Im not really bothered and I like the mystery, I like the imagery of the song and pictures it puts in your mind....I love the end where Hendrix screams 'and the wind begins to howl' and goes into the most ripping elemental guitar solo. It like he becomes this howling wind...big thumbs up from me :-)

    So to answer the question, no, that he possibly fumbled the line doesnt bug me really. I think you just notice the bigger picture.




    but I've found this about on wiki if this helps:-


    Several reviewers have pointed out that the lyrics in "All Along the Watchtower" echo lines in the Book of Isaiah, Chapter 21, verses 5-9:
    Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise ye princes, and prepare the shield./For thus hath the Lord said unto me, Go set a watchman, let him declare what he seeth./And he saw a chariot with a couple of horsemen, a chariot of asses, and a chariot of camels; and he hearkened diligently with much heed./...And, behold, here cometh a chariot of men, with a couple of horsemen. And he answered and said, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, and all the graven images of her gods he hath broken unto the ground.[11][12]
    Commenting on the songs on his album John Wesley Harding, in an interview published in the folk music magazine Sing Out! in October 1968, Dylan told John Cohen and Happy Traum:
    "I haven't fulfilled the balladeers's job. A balladeer can sit down and sing three songs for an hour and a half... it can all unfold to you. These melodies on John Wesley Harding lack this traditional sense of time. As with the third verse of "The Wicked Messenger", which opens it up, and then the time schedule takes a jump and soon the song becomes wider... The same thing is true of the song "All Along the Watchtower", which opens up in a slightly different way, in a stranger way, for we have the cycle of events working in a rather reverse order."[13]









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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    Quote Originally Posted by MourningStar View Post
    The subject is taboo. Terrible and horrible things are in store to any that breech this forbidden topic. Beware!

    Ha!!!!!!
    Funny as hell!

    I think I remember Dylan sayin' this song was all Jimi's after He did what He did with it!

    Dylan sang it Jimi's way.

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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    from Rupe's Clippings Collection
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    Last edited by J.Lucas; 02-29-12 at 03:44 PM.

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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    Quote Originally Posted by stplsd View Post
    Unfortunately JL this only shows as "Invalid attachment ...etc."
    Thanks for letting me know.....I think I fixed it...it was just a bit I came across while reading Rupe's Clipping Collection..thought it was funny...the last lines about Hendrix never really learned the words to All Along The Watchtower
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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    Quote Originally Posted by J.Lucas View Post
    Thanks for letting me know.....I think I fixed it...it was just a bit I came across while reading Rupe's Clipping Collection..thought it was funny...the last lines about Hendrix never really learned the words to All Along The Watchtower
    J.L.
    Thanks for fixing it. Truly ridiculous comment on the lyrics ha-ha-ha.
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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    I've always heard Zimmie's lyrics when Jimi sings it.

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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Red House View Post
    I've always heard Zimmie's lyrics when Jimi sings it.
    Even the first verse on the last line? Where he clearly almost always doesn't sing the original, apart from the one gig we have a recording of him singing the original (interestingly a gig ms attended and who, very generously, gave us photos and remenisces of - lucky bastard!) The gig being San Berdoo '70. He (Hendrix) often ad-libbed/edited his own lyrics - most notably Spanish Castle Magic - so why not Bob's? (which he clearly, regulary did on that line of that verse, unless you are deef?) He also felt free to ad-lib/chop out the odd verse of lyrics in Like A Rolling Stone too on occasion)
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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    On the studio version. He kind of mumbles but it still sounds like Zimmie's lyrics to me. Jimi had a way of getting tongue-tied often times.

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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    To me, Jimi has the dictum of a true Pavarotti :-)
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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ezy Rider View Post
    To me, Jimi has the dictum of a true Pavarotti :-)
    Ha-ha-ha
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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    isle of wight jimi sang, " naohs uunn the line hwos ehos here"

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    Re: Hendrix's Lyrics in Watchtower - does it bug you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vibratory View Post
    isle of wight jimi sang, " naohs uunn the line hwos ehos here"
    You got it!
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